The American binary racial scheme of white/people of color is inadequate for talking about Jewish history and Jewish oppression and the solution is not to fit ourselves into that scheme but to engage in Jewish terms that recognize the role of white privilege in American Jewish life
love it when other ppl can put what took me like 6 paragraphs to say into one perfect neat sentence
in other words gentiles stop calling jews white and jews stop insisting youre not white w/o presenting a more nuanced perspective n imo definitely don’t call yourself a POC
"white-passing" is a step but simply deferring to that vocabulary still draws unfair parallels to a specific legacy of POC struggle and ignores jews’ complicated relationship with Whiteness
6:47 pm • 21 January 2014 • 123 notes
I always feel uncomfortable when people use the term “jews” instead of “jewish people” I feel like that’s kind of culturally insensitive or something tbh.
do I have any jewish followers that can answer this question? like does it piss you off?
Yeah, Jewish people is definitely more polite and preferable to use.
"Jewish people" is preferable because it takes longer to type out and you therefore have more time to think about whether your point is stupid and horrible
You’ll also never catch an anti-Semite saying “Jewish people” because to them we are not people but rather offensive abstractions, whether they say “the Jews” or “white Jews” or who even knows their latest schtick
lol @ bolded
but i also hate this whole thing like why do jews as a people not get their own noun ? because simply what we ARE is considered enough of an insult for the people who hated us or wanted us dead. because passive and active anti-semites took a word that means jewish person and used it as a generalized pejorative to be leveled against jew and non-jew alike… im curious about this . there is obviously some amount of this going on with every oppressed or minority peoples but i really only see it so blaringly with ‘jews’ and ‘gays’
reminds me of that ryan gosling scene in the believer where he says jew over and over again and tells his flock that the word alone is enough to make yer skin crawl and that there’s no reason it just is
3:33 pm • 17 July 2013 • 37 notes
Semites are the descendents of Shem (Son of Noah). This includes Abraham and therefore the descendents of both his sons, which means both Hebrews and Arabs. Therefore, technically bigotry against Muslims qualifies as antisemitism.
But since no one uses it that way, it arguably doesn’t mean that anymore. Thus I’m caught in yet another conflict between technical and common usage.
You’re an idiot, and this shit is so basic it is literally on wikipedia.
Anti-Semitism = against Jews.
That other people are also Semites does not mean the term is applicable to them. PS, Muslims =/= Arabs. Stop that shit.
Greenland is not green, and Iceland is not made of ice. The plural of mouse is mice, but the plural of moose is not meese. Welcome to the English language.
Get over it, and google a thing before putting your ignorant crap where everyone else can see it.
I’m tired of goyim dictating to us about what our own oppression means.
haha i love this newish response to old-ass argument
8:30 pm • 15 June 2013 • 15 notes
This Probably Makes No Sense, But I Need Air
Okay, I’ve been trying to figure out how to argue this for awhile now. I don’t want you guys to think I’m crying white boy tears, and I think you all know I am more than honest about admitting my white privilege so that is definitely not my intention. But I think it is extremely dangerous that there are people in certain groups that think they get to define the limits of acceptability as far as speech, thought, politics, and activism. And since I’m white, I must listen to them and can’t say anything they disagree with else I’m anti-Semitic.
In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the oppressed are the Palestinians, and the only people I’m going to allow to define the limits of acceptability for myself are the Palestinians. I’m sorry, but why the fuck should I care about what some Western girl in a cozy house in America says? The only opinions that matter in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are first, Palestinians, and second, Israelis (preferably those who dissent). Not some self-worthy American bloggers that are oh so offended that people aren’t happy with Israel.
there are a lot of bullshit antisemitism claims from zionists but antisemitism is real and youve actually done some antisemitic shit in the past that some ‘western girl in a cozy house in america’ has called you out on and youve apologized and recognized.
it’s really fucking stupid that you as a gentile think you can reduce the issue to just israelis and palestinians and only care about the concerns of palestinians when gentile speech and yes, often anti-zionist activism, is often rife with antisemitism, and when antisemitism is a very real thing that you need to check yourself and be checked for and be responsible for when talking about such a delicate issue— diaspora jews suffer by israels actions too, though obviously in no way similar to the palestinians, but it’s really obnoxious to think you can ignore an entire people who are often innocent bystanders or even allies in this issue but are consistently affected by it WAY more than you and whether they like it or not.
you are a white gentile talking about palestinian/poc issues as well as jewish issues (not just israelis) and JEWS are not the oppressor so yes you are still responsible for answering to people who, unlike you, are ACTUALLY affected by the issues you are commenting on, and who have a history of being oppressed.
why on earth do ppl fail to apply these rules to jews and issues that affect them, so otherwise consistantly accepted and espoused by tumblr folk. if there’s another peoples’ issue you’re speaking on, and they got a problem with your speech, YOU DO NOT
"get to define the limits of acceptability" of course there are exceptions and of course there are asshole right wing zionists, but at the very least you listen and you definitely don’t get to reduce it to saying that "the only people who get to define the limits of acceptability are palestinians" are you kidding? you do realize that there are some/many palestinian/anti-zionist bloggers who post the most antisemitic, offensive, ignorant shit, just as there are many as zionist/jewish/racist bloggers who post islamophobic and racist shit?
sure okay zionists are the oppressors and palestinians are the oppressed but that doesnt mean you just take the bad with good and accept antisemitism and reinforce that speech. and sorry but i can’t count on you to be the sole decider of what’s antisemitic, on account of the fact that YOURE NOT A FUCKING JEW
no more i swear
12:48 am • 28 January 2013 • 14 notes